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Inside Magic: How did you get started in magic?
I was 18 before I saw my first live performance of a magic show.
Irv Wiener (Mr. Fingers) performed on campus at Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama and I was BLOWN AWAY!
Later that semester, I found out a friend from Spanish class was a Gospel magician and I bugged him to teach me some magic until I wore him down and he did. About 8 months later, after attending dozens of his shows and learning his stuff, he called to tell me he was sick and needed me to cover his show.
I borrowed his props and tuxedo, went to a church basement, performed a sponge ball routine (his standard opener) and got applause! I was hooked from that moment on to performing magic.
Inside Magic: Who were your biggest influences?
Starting out in the late seventies there were a number of obvious influences – Henning, Mark Wilson, Copperfield, some of the guys at the magic shop in Birmingham.
Later I was influenced as much by story telling comedians (Bill Cosby, Christian humorist Grady Nutt, and Jeff Foxworthy in particular) who could tell a story that would take you “there,” wherever “there” was that they wanted to take you.
Now I almost never tell stories about ancient temples and shamans and the occasional wise man of the mountain when I develop patter for my routines. I tell stories from real life (or as real as I can get them!) about growing up, families in the south, my experience at a rope store, or playing “oops! got your nose!” with clowns (the opener for my sponge balls routine).
Storytellers, in my opinion, do amazing magic for their audiences with no props. If the magic in the story can be made even better with the addition of illusion, then I have improved both the story and the magic.
Inside Magic: What is your favorite type of magic to perform or watch?
I would far rather see (or be) a magician in a smaller venue (living room, restaurant, church basement) performing wonderful comedy magic that involves the audience and a real spectator/volunteer than all the flashy cabinets and dancing girls that Vegas can hold!
Of course I buy tickets to see Copperfield every year, and am looking forward to going to Vegas to see the shows there, but IMHO, nothing beats magic in an intimate setting, and meeting and talking to the magician after the show.
Inside Magic: Is it tougher teaching magic or performing a show?
Far more difficult to teach, because of the individual nature of teaching a student. For a group, you aim for the middle, but with teaching, you have to consider the individual. After all, “it isn’t teaching if they aren’t learning!”
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